Nice list, man. Your taste in music seems very diverse (judging from your other lists). I've heard most of these and I do agree with their inclusions (especially #2-5!). But having Draconian Times at #1 is a big NO.

Good you added genre-tags, as it's something I really like in a list (I do it myself as well). I can't say I agree with all inclusions here, nor do I agree with all the genre-tags, but I've read the notes in your description, so I won't be annoying you with what's wrong (in my opinion).

Anyway, check out my list as well, as it's a bit similar to this one: The Best "(Gothic) Beauty And The Beast" Albums. Just check that list if you need other great similar albums. Your list is already quite long so I won't bother giving you suggestions (for now).

Written by Erik M. on 25.04.2014 at 21:54

Nice list, man. Your taste in music seems very diverse (judging from your other lists). I've heard most of these and I do agree with their inclusions (especially #2-5!). But having Draconian Times at #1 is a big NO.

Good you added genre-tags, as it's something I really like in a list (I do it myself as well). I can't say I agree with all inclusions here, nor do I agree with all the genre-tags, but I've read the notes in your description, so I won't be annoying you with what's wrong (in my opinion).

Anyway, check out my list as well, as it's a bit similar to this one: The Best "(Gothic) Beauty And The Beast" Albums. Just check that list if you need other great similar albums. Your list is already quite long so I won't bother giving you suggestions (for now).

Thanks. I haven't settled yet for Draconian Times and I probably won't keep it on no.1. I have not arranged all yet. I've seen your list in the past and it is a pretty good one too, though I label here what is gothic metal while you labeled there albums that are in the 'beauty and the beast' vocal concept which transcends gothic metal.

I've listened to most of what you have on your list and I can agree, it is a pretty damn good one (though personaly, I would never put Where Lovers Mourn over Arcane Rain Fell).

As for genre tags, some albums are pretty hard to define, others are unsuficiently defined. So I pretty much stick with my own interpretation of their sound.

From new lot, this surprised me.

Still I find last half to be boring and stretched out but it wasn't that bad either. It has it's own great moments.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 25.04.2014 at 22:36

From new lot, this surprised me.

Still I find last half to be boring and stretched out but it wasn't that bad either. It has it's own great moments.

Yeah, I know those guys. A part of them are in one of my favorite bands, Omit and another part in Skumring. A pretty good bunch I suppose. And yeah, this album, especially the first part is fabulous, but the second kinda drags. I intended to include them nonetheless, just need to find the time and mood to do it as my catalogue of gothic metal offerings is pretty large.

Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.04.2014 at 22:43

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 25.04.2014 at 22:36

From new lot, this surprised me.

Still I find last half to be boring and stretched out but it wasn't that bad either. It has it's own great moments.

I intended to include them nonetheless, just need to find the time and mood to do it as my catalogue of gothic metal offerings is pretty large.

Nah, i don't think you should include it considering that last half swallowed the fun of that album.

Anyway, tons of Gothic metal albums is still surround. Seriously, genre hasn't died yet. They're artists who still pushes "Gothic Metal" competition bar high.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 25.04.2014 at 23:01

Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.04.2014 at 22:43

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 25.04.2014 at 22:36

From new lot, this surprised me.

Still I find last half to be boring and stretched out but it wasn't that bad either. It has it's own great moments.

I intended to include them nonetheless, just need to find the time and mood to do it as my catalogue of gothic metal offerings is pretty large.

Nah, i don't think you should include it considering that last half swallowed the fun of that album.

Anyway, tons of Gothic metal albums is still surround. Seriously, genre hasn't died yet. They're artists who still pushes "Gothic Metal" competition bar high.

Indeed, and here are some guys that I think might interest you. They are stupidly labeled here, but they somehow fit the avant-garde gothic/black metal genre. They are really weird, but the debut is fucking amazing though it take time to get the drill.

Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.04.2014 at 22:23

Thanks. I haven't settled yet for Draconian Times and I probably won't keep it on no.1. I have not arranged all yet. I've seen your list in the past and it is a pretty good one too, though I label here what is gothic metal while you labeled there albums that are in the 'beauty and the beast' vocal concept which transcends gothic metal.

I've listened to most of what you have on your list and I can agree, it is a pretty damn good one (though personaly, I would never put Where Lovers Mourn over Arcane Rain Fell).

As for genre tags, some albums are pretty hard to define, others are unsuficiently defined. So I pretty much stick with my own interpretation of their sound.

Good to hear Draconian Times won't remain #1 then, haha. Apart from that, the top 5 is pretty spot-on I'd say, even though this list contains lots of other excellent albums. And yeah, the variety on your list is bigger than on mine, which is only logical of course. About Draconian: I haven't listened to any of their albums in years I think, so right now it's hard to say which album is my favourite. But back then I definitely preferred the debut over Arcane Rain Fell, just like how I prefer Widow's Weeds over Beyond the Veil. All those albums are excellent nonetheless, it's a matter of preference.

Edit: oh, I just noticed you already changed the order. Already an improvement.

Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.04.2014 at 23:30

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 25.04.2014 at 23:01

Written by ManiacBlasphemer on 25.04.2014 at 22:43

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 25.04.2014 at 22:36

From new lot, this surprised me.

Still I find last half to be boring and stretched out but it wasn't that bad either. It has it's own great moments.

I intended to include them nonetheless, just need to find the time and mood to do it as my catalogue of gothic metal offerings is pretty large.

Nah, i don't think you should include it considering that last half swallowed the fun of that album.

Anyway, tons of Gothic metal albums is still surround. Seriously, genre hasn't died yet. They're artists who still pushes "Gothic Metal" competition bar high.

Ebonylake

I heard "In Swathes" and as Craig said it, "it's Chaotic Fucking Mess". Damn fine album. But, missed the debut.

I'll surely to check out soon.

Good list, makes my gothic list feel really short. I've listened to nearly all of these and most are worthy for the spot.

Kicki Hoijertz has to be one of the most talented vocalists I've heard in metal. Overlooked I think because her work was minimal and she doesn't perform anymore to my knowledge. An exceptional talent though, as she shows on Seibenburgen's Delictum.

Different context, and much different style, but I also like her performance on Left Hand Solution's Ep "Shadowdance." Doomy and impressive:

Written by R'Vannith on 15.05.2014 at 07:14

Kicki Hoijertz has to be one of the most talented vocalists I've heard in metal. Overlooked I think because her work was minimal and she doesn't perform anymore to my knowledge. An exceptional talent though, as she shows on Seibenburgen's Delictum.

Different context, and much different style, but I also like her performance on Left Hand Solution's Ep "Shadowdance." Doomy and impressive:

Yeah, an exceptional vocalist, a rare talent indeed. Too bad Siebenburgen is gone and her colaboration with them too, long ago though. I also listened to her work in LHS, simply amazing... there are people in this world that wherever they go and whatever they do, they put a magic touch to their works. Amazing...

Great list, love most of the albums on the list and most I haven't heard yet. However, I'm wondering why Anathema is not on the list. I know they have been classes under doom metal or death-doom metal but to my ears they're eternity, alternative 4, and judgment albums sound very dark, atmospheric and depressing and I myself have considered them as gothic metal. I would like your thoughts on Anathema.