Written by RavenKing on 29.03.2011 at 02:40

Written by The Turbanator on 29.03.2011 at 01:17

Apart from France and the US, Germany probably has the best BM bands.

The French scene is the most overrated of all.

The first thing I've seen from you that I disagree with. lol

Written by ß on 29.03.2011 at 03:13

I agree that the French scene is one of the most overrated, and I've understood why Peste Noire gets so much hype... I personally think they are as mundane as you can get, not one redeeming quality. I myself think Eastern Europe has some quite good BM out there.

Different people have different taste. You might think Peste Noire is mundane and very hyped up, but for me they are one of the best out there. It's just the matter of taste.

That said, we should stop discussing about French or any other bands from other countries. Lets stick to German bands in this thread.

Well, Coldworld pretty much got me into DBM. I love them to death lol.

I just love Dark Fortress, can you guys recommend me any bands that are similar to their musicstyle, not necessarily german

Written by RavenKing on 29.03.2011 at 02:40

Written by The Turbanator on 29.03.2011 at 01:17

Apart from France and the US, Germany probably has the best BM bands.

The French scene is the most overrated of all.

I am in total agreement. If you hear some really pretentious bm, chances are it might be French.

Especially DSO is annoying. Peste Noire has some okay-ish bass lines occationally though, even if they largely suck.

Written by SoulScarred on 29.03.2011 at 13:08

I just love Dark Fortress, can you guys recommend me any bands that are similar to their musicstyle, not necessarily german

Try Watain, Dissection(early), Helrunar, Imperium Dekadenz, Immortal......all good bands!

Menhir, but that's pagan black.
Moonblood
Negator (start with their 2010, I did )
Nagelfar
Mystic Circle

...and the rest is said I think.

Written by Koen Smits on 30.03.2011 at 01:10

Menhir, but that's pagan black.
Moonblood
Negator (start with their 2010, I did )
Nagelfar
Mystic Circle

...and the rest is said I think.

Moonblood is, although, way too shitty for my liking.

Best thing they ever put out was one of the rehearsals which features some solid raw black metal with an epic vibe. Most of the rest is pure shit (that means pretty much everything aside from the occational song which is solid at best). They are one of those bands kept alive because of the fact that they're so (in)famous in the bm scene and the prestige that comes with owning their releases.

A bit of the same deal with most of the French LLN stuff. It stands on reputation alone, with little to back it up.

French black metal.... There are some quite interesting bands that are influenced by black metal, whose music may sound "blasphemous" to the people who consider themselves to be "TRVE" black metalheads, bands like Alcest and Amesoeurs. It is good music, but derails from the style of the traditional. ^^

Much (not all) of German black metal is raw and somewhat distorted in their sound. Just the way I like it.

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 29.03.2011 at 13:30

I am in total agreement. If you hear some really pretentious bm, chances are it might be French.

Especially DSO is annoying. Peste Noire has some okay-ish bass lines occationally though, even if they largely suck.

Amusing how people change their tune over time: "France has one of the best bm scenes in the world" http://metalstorm.net/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16318&topicsearch=&page=1

Blut aus Nord, Murmuüre, Bekhira, Svart Crown, Alien Deviant Circus, S.V.E.S.T., Hirilorn as well as the other obvious ones: nothing overrated about the scene from where I'm sitting (aside from the blazen obvious dross like Peste Noire, Spektr, Anorexia Nervosa, Antaeus et al). There's nothing wrong with pretentious metal either to be honest. Just look at BaN. Actually most of my favourite bands tend to be synonymous with terms like "pretentious" - the word is mostly used to describe bands with original or genre bending/pushing sounds that people decide not to like. In fact it should be abolished from the metal vocabulary altogether as far as I'm concerned as it's totally valueless when describing music.

Anyway, no one even remotely serious about summing up the French scene would even entertain LLN as contenders. Everyone knows it was 97% shite. The best thing that came out that scene was the Japanese so-called spiritual successors 'Arkha Sva' who are actually very good indeed.

I still think the UK is the biggest contender for true French rivals, especially given the relative size of the country, but I'm more or less alone in that assertion and that's probably because I've done a bunch of research and become a bit of a patriot where the scene is concerned.

Written by Guest on 30.03.2011 at 05:41

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 29.03.2011 at 13:30

I am in total agreement. If you hear some really pretentious bm, chances are it might be French.

Especially DSO is annoying. Peste Noire has some okay-ish bass lines occationally though, even if they largely suck.

Amusing how people change their tune over time: "France has one of the best bm scenes in the world" http://metalstorm.net/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16318&topicsearch=&page=1

Blut aus Nord, Murmuüre, Bekhira, Svart Crown, Alien Deviant Circus, S.V.E.S.T., Hirilorn as well as the other obvious ones: nothing overrated about the scene from where I'm sitting (aside from the blazen obvious dross like Peste Noire, Spektr, Anorexia Nervosa, Antaeus et al). There's nothing wrong with pretentious metal either to be honest. Just look at BaN.

Anyway, no one even remotely serious about summing up the French scene would even entertain LLN as contenders. Everyone knows it was 97% shite, I'm amazed people need to keep mentioning them at all. The best thing that came out that scene was the Japanese so-called spiritual successors 'Arkha Sva' who are actually very good indeed.

Oh my, we've a flip flopper, get em! GET EM! Nah, the French BM scene is top notch imo.

Written by Yasmine on 30.03.2011 at 05:52


Oh my, we've a flip flopper, get em! GET EM! Nah, the French BM scene is top notch imo.

I suppose there is a couple of years or so between the wagon jumping so can't be too harsh I guess ;]

Written by Guest on 30.03.2011 at 05:53

Written by Yasmine on 30.03.2011 at 05:52


Oh my, we've a flip flopper, get em! GET EM! Nah, the French BM scene is top notch imo.

I suppose there is a couple of years or so between the wagon jumping so can't be too harsh I guess ;]

Lol busted!

Young people can change and develop relatively quickly? Truly, it boggles the mind. I also thought that Deathspell Omega had better lyrics than Venom when I was 18, now I find the idea ridiculous.

Written by Guest on 30.03.2011 at 05:41

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 29.03.2011 at 13:30

I am in total agreement. If you hear some really pretentious bm, chances are it might be French.

Especially DSO is annoying. Peste Noire has some okay-ish bass lines occationally though, even if they largely suck.

Amusing how people change their tune over time: "France has one of the best bm scenes in the world" http://metalstorm.net/forum/topic.php?topic_id=16318&topicsearch=&page=1

Blut aus Nord, Murmuüre, Bekhira, Svart Crown, Alien Deviant Circus, S.V.E.S.T., Hirilorn as well as the other obvious ones: nothing overrated about the scene from where I'm sitting (aside from the blazen obvious dross like Peste Noire, Spektr, Anorexia Nervosa, Antaeus et al). There's nothing wrong with pretentious metal either to be honest. Just look at BaN. Actually most of my favourite bands tend to be synonymous with terms like "pretentious" - the word is mostly used to describe bands with original or genre bending/pushing sounds that people decide not to like. In fact it should be abolished from the metal vocabulary altogether as far as I'm concerned as it's totally valueless when describing music.

Anyway, no one even remotely serious about summing up the French scene would even entertain LLN as contenders. Everyone knows it was 97% shite. The best thing that came out that scene was the Japanese so-called spiritual successors 'Arkha Sva' who are actually very good indeed.

I still think the UK is the biggest contender for true French rivals, especially given the relative size of the country, but I'm more or less alone in that assertion and that's probably because I've done a bunch of research and become a bit of a patriot where the scene is concerned.

Ah 2009. I'm guessing you would remember that, being the time when I was younger, high all the time and didn't make sense most of the time.

What happened? I dropped away from MS just about completely for about a year and during this time got (mostly) sober.

When I did that, DSO and SVEST weren't that fun anymore.

Written by ForeverDarkWoods on 30.03.2011 at 01:17

Written by Koen Smits on 30.03.2011 at 01:10

Menhir, but that's pagan black.
Moonblood
Negator (start with their 2010, I did )
Nagelfar
Mystic Circle

...and the rest is said I think.

Moonblood is, although, way too shitty for my liking.

Best thing they ever put out was one of the rehearsals which features some solid raw black metal with an epic vibe. Most of the rest is pure shit (that means pretty much everything aside from the occational song which is solid at best). They are one of those bands kept alive because of the fact that they're so (in)famous in the bm scene and the prestige that comes with owning their releases.

A bit of the same deal with most of the French LLN stuff. It stands on reputation alone, with little to back it up.

I agree on the "keeping alive/owning their releases part on Moonblood, but for me Blut Und Krieg is far from shitty

Guys this is a German Black Metal thread. Keep it at that.

I'd have to say Negator is my favorite German black metal band. Love their speed and intensity.

Written by Sulac on 30.03.2011 at 22:45

I'd have to say Negator is my favorite German black metal band. Love their speed and intensity.

You said speed, so I had to check it out, I like it. lol

Which song?

Written by Sulac on 30.03.2011 at 22:51

Which song?

2, forget the first, 2nd was Panzer metal I think.

Science Of Nihil always makes me headbang. Always.

I've just posted this track elsewhere on here but I was so RIDICULOUSLY impressed by the album and this track that I thought it pertinent to share it on this recently established thread:

Infestus - Mirror Mind Reality (from the recently leaked and released 'E x | I s t' album)



Now officially a fan of these Germans.

^ this is some intense stuff! I love the vocals on these.

Written by Guest on 31.03.2011 at 01:31

I've just posted this track elsewhere on here but I was so RIDICULOUSLY impressed by the album and this track that I thought it pertinent to share it on this recently established thread:

Infestus - Mirror Mind Reality (from the recently leaked and released 'E x | I s t' album)



Now officially a fan of these Germans.

They sound very good........thanks for highlighting them!

Written by Bigpaul on 31.03.2011 at 12:21

They sound very good........thanks for highlighting them!

No problem.

Hey dudes and dude ladies, just got into Necros Christos (death+christ) they are German but aren't fully black metal, have hints of doom throughout, and they so far have gotten my level of taste up in GBM. The name sounds as it implies as a Greek band, and they have long track listings on their 2007 and latest 2011 release, with lots of Hellenic inspired instrumental parts about... each album has 23 songs. But it doesn't disappoint at all!!!

Ya, Doom of the Occult is a sick album. When I first listened to it I drew a lot of comparisons with W.A.I.L.'s debut - top notch death doom (wouldn't call them black metal - just death or death doom).

Dark Fortress is my favorite bm band from germany

Nargaroth^^.

Saw them live in Innsbruck, very impressive.