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Posted by Account deleted, 11.11.2006 - 14:17
what do you all think about these two taboo subjects? in sweden, prostitution is illegal. i think this is wrong. i want a more liberal society. supply and demand should be put to use. people who are against prostitution always gives the argument "the girls are being used by the men". well, thats the same thing as the guy working at mc donalds is being used, coz its a shitty job with low wage. but what if the girl chooses to be a prostitute. then why is it wrong?
the same with pornography. people say "men learn to see women as objects". well, i admit that i've watched porn, but that doesnt make me look at women as objects. its still supply and demand. people are willing to expose themselves on the camera, and people are willing to pay to see the movies.

as long as no one gets hurt, it should be legal

am i right? what do you think?
06.08.2007 - 00:49
selken
Irreligious
Written by Lucas on 05.08.2007 at 22:50

Written by selken on 05.08.2007 at 04:59

Prostitution is wrong, you can get awful diseases, just for a moment of pleasure.


If you're stupid enough to have sex with a prostitute WITHOUT protection, you deserve an STD.

Well, It seems that you are too young and probably you think that a protection is enough, you are wrong buddy, condoms are not enough, they aren't force fields against viruses or fleas, a friend of mine got a nasty plague, although he did used protection, and washed after sex, he spent a year trying to get rid of that, and after dozens of painful treatments finally he got cured.
Maybe he was stupid and forgot something, but why to take risks, its better to take a girl you know and have a happy time :-)

Condoms are only 50% secure, check statics man, even extreme protections aren't 100% secure.

By the way, what does STD stands for?
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06.08.2007 - 00:55
Lucas
Mr. Noise
Elite
Written by selken on 06.08.2007 at 00:49

Well, It seems that you are too young and probably you think that a protection is enough, you are wrong buddy, condoms are not enough, they aren't force fields against viruses or fleas, a friend of mine got a nasty plague, although he did used protection, and washed after sex, he spent a year trying to get rid of that, and after dozens of painful treatments finally he got cured.


I hate it when people call me young. Eventhough I am.

Anyway, I think condoms do protect against STD's. (To answer your question, that stands for Sexual Transgressable Disease). Of course, if they don't break. However, I'm not so sure about fleas, maybe that's a different case. And it must be annoying, of course.

And yes, I do think that sex will be much better with a girl that doesn't do it for money, but for you.
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06.08.2007 - 01:55
APOHAKC
The Bard
Written by selken on 05.08.2007 at 04:59

Prostitution is wrong, you can get awful diseases, just for a moment of pleasure.
Porn is wrong... oh man, i'm a bad liar but, all we know that is wrong, but if any man (18+) haven't watched porno yet, quote this post. If you don't think that porn is bad, why do you hide your files, magazines and so from your parents??????


I never tried to hide porsn and magazines from my parents, maybe there is something really wrong with me
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06.08.2007 - 06:31
selken
Irreligious
Written by Lucas on 06.08.2007 at 00:55

Written by selken on 06.08.2007 at 00:49

Well, It seems that you are too young and probably you think that a protection is enough, you are wrong buddy, condoms are not enough, they aren't force fields against viruses or fleas, a friend of mine got a nasty plague, although he did used protection, and washed after sex, he spent a year trying to get rid of that, and after dozens of painful treatments finally he got cured.


I hate it when people call me young. Eventhough I am.

Anyway, I think condoms do protect against STD's. (To answer your question, that stands for Sexual Transgressable Disease). Of course, if they don't break. However, I'm not so sure about fleas, maybe that's a different case. And it must be annoying, of course.

And yes, I do think that sex will be much better with a girl that doesn't do it for money, but for you.

Ohh, I didn't knew that these were the initials in English, anyway, out there in europe, particullary in netherlands where i think is legal, the prostitution is more "clean", but here in my coutry the cheap ones are really nasty.
and don't worry about being young, eventually you won't
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06.08.2007 - 18:49
Achor
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@ selkenshin: the reason most people hide it from parents is probably that sex is still taboo, even though it shouldnt. another reason might be that you dont talk about stuff like sex with your parents. i mean, i dont have any problem at all talking about porn with my friends, but we talk about everything. i never talk about sex or love or anything like that with my parents.
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07.08.2007 - 16:59
APOHAKC
The Bard
Maybe you should, I didn't talk with them about that, and once my mom bought me pack of condoms and said I don't want to be grandmother yet, she found some old condoms, after that, I talked with my mom about that very often, and she helped me a lot
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10.08.2007 - 00:05
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Tage Westerlund
Written by APOHAKC on 06.08.2007 at 01:55

Written by selken on 05.08.2007 at 04:59

Prostitution is wrong, you can get awful diseases, just for a moment of pleasure.
Porn is wrong... oh man, i'm a bad liar but, all we know that is wrong, but if any man (18+) haven't watched porno yet, quote this post. If you don't think that porn is bad, why do you hide your files, magazines and so from your parents??????


I never tried to hide porsn and magazines from my parents, maybe there is something really wrong with me


My father hasnt encrpited porn channels in my(HIS) satalite receiver, and he never had done even when I wa sin age 15 so ... but in that time was diferent porn, but from other hand, I never watch them when he are home
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18.08.2007 - 16:56
Elodie Artour
Slania
Written by APOHAKC on 12.01.2007 at 18:24

If porno there are no porno films some people would never see how pussy or dick really look, so I don't have nothing against if there is no children, violence and my girlfriend, actually not sure about last one

LOL.
Well,I don't agree with you.People can always take a look at an encyclopedia or on the Internet at Wikipedia,for example.
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18.08.2007 - 17:48
Bad English
Tage Westerlund
Written by Elodie Artour on 18.08.2007 at 16:56

Written by APOHAKC on 12.01.2007 at 18:24

If porno there are no porno films some people would never see how pussy or dick really look, so I don't have nothing against if there is no children, violence and my girlfriend, actually not sure about last one

LOL.
Well,I don't agree with you.People can always take a look at an encyclopedia or on the Internet at Wikipedia,for example.


But in TV are are more fun how pics and books
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18.08.2007 - 19:52
Elodie Artour
Slania
Well,okay.I agree...
But still-it isn't the only way to see how these organs look like.
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20.08.2007 - 00:53
APOHAKC
The Bard
Written by Elodie Artour on 18.08.2007 at 16:56

Written by APOHAKC on 12.01.2007 at 18:24

If porno there are no porno films some people would never see how pussy or dick really look, so I don't have nothing against if there is no children, violence and my girlfriend, actually not sure about last one

LOL.
Well,I don't agree with you.People can always take a look at an encyclopedia or on the Internet at Wikipedia,for example.


Hmm, you have the point there, but, we can't here the voices there
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20.08.2007 - 12:19
Elodie Artour
Slania

I see.You're right.
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24.08.2007 - 14:00
Black Winter
Under age porn is the most growing field of prostitution now online, I was chocked to see some of those sites, actually I am still chocked some people think it's "kewl" or something but I think it's an off color joke, no it's not even a joke it's a crime, some of those minors are just 12 ! and I talk about both sexes here.
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18.09.2007 - 22:01
?Master?
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porn-im okay with i watch it constantly n if someone wants to record themselvers getting fukd and they have the confidence to do that more powere to ya
prostitiution-same but cmon everything someone does now adays can be considered prostitution most girls want to be whined n dined n be bought materialistic objects n then they fuk the guy...
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18.09.2007 - 23:01
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Author on 18.09.2007 at 22:01

porn-im okay with i watch it constantly n if someone wants to record themselvers getting fukd and they have the confidence to do that more powere to ya
prostitiution-same but cmon everything someone does now adays can be considered prostitution most girls want to be whined n dined n be bought materialistic objects n then they fuk the guy...


I agree whit last part about that all in nowdays are like prostitition and damn I dont like such thinks its discusting and anoying that almoust ewery gilr choose that way(I mean not whore) it s damn I prefere old ways better
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28.09.2007 - 16:12
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Written by Black Winter on 24.08.2007 at 14:00

Under age porn is the most growing field of prostitution now online, I was chocked to see some of those sites, actually I am still chocked some people think it's "kewl" or something but I think it's an off color joke, no it's not even a joke it's a crime, some of those minors are just 12 ! and I talk about both sexes here.

Here's a video of a Doug Stanhope comedy performance that raises some interesting points regarding child porn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8APlx9btTn8 .
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10.10.2007 - 21:45
SexBloodandMetal
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Written by Doc G. on 06.06.2007 at 22:09


Thats what I said, first of all, there are some girls that are like 16 but look 20, and those apparently are the biggest pedophile/underage problems in the porn industry (my friends dad was some sort of manager for a porn company in the 80's ). Secondly, just because some guys get off on child porn doesnt mean they automatically wanna rape a child. When someone watches normal porn, does that make them automatically want to go out and rape some girl? no! Child porn is just a fetish IMO like bondage and all that shit ( dont get me wrong im not saying its right or anything)


Yeah, I wasn't thinking when I typed that...

I still think CP should be banned, I don't mean those ones who look and act like adult women, specifically I mean like when a child hasn't gone thru puberty kinda thing. Thats sick, plus, even if it is reduced to just something a guy finds on a the internet and faps to, the truth is, a kid had to be sexually abused/exploited in some way in the first place, which is damaging to the child in question. I'm not thinking about the pedo in question, I'm thinking about the safety of children...And to specify what I meant by executing pedophiles, I meant those who act on their urge and actually go out and molest/rape children. Anyone who has the urge and doesn't act on it should just be given psych help, and something that will kill their sexual urges...
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09.11.2007 - 18:35
Warman
Erotic Stains
Written by Author on 10.10.2007 at 21:45

I still think CP should be banned

Hihihi... I know this is a serious discussion... can't help it though, as a swede you gotta laugh... CP is slang for mentally retarded in swedish...
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09.11.2007 - 19:24
ร˜yvind
Grave Digger
Written by Author on 10.10.2007 at 21:45

Written by Doc G. on 06.06.2007 at 22:09


Thats what I said, first of all, there are some girls that are like 16 but look 20, and those apparently are the biggest pedophile/underage problems in the porn industry (my friends dad was some sort of manager for a porn company in the 80's ). Secondly, just because some guys get off on child porn doesnt mean they automatically wanna rape a child. When someone watches normal porn, does that make them automatically want to go out and rape some girl? no! Child porn is just a fetish IMO like bondage and all that shit ( dont get me wrong im not saying its right or anything)


Yeah, I wasn't thinking when I typed that...

I still think CP should be banned, I don't mean those ones who look and act like adult women, specifically I mean like when a child hasn't gone thru puberty kinda thing. Thats sick, plus, even if it is reduced to just something a guy finds on a the internet and faps to, the truth is, a kid had to be sexually abused/exploited in some way in the first place, which is damaging to the child in question. I'm not thinking about the pedo in question, I'm thinking about the safety of children...And to specify what I meant by executing pedophiles, I meant those who act on their urge and actually go out and molest/rape children. Anyone who has the urge and doesn't act on it should just be given psych help, and something that will kill their sexual urges...



Well, I don't see CP (not Swedish) as a fetish, because it's pure molestation. I mean, find me a child who would like to have sex with a fully grown man, or woman. I doubt there are any. However, it is true that a number of people watch that, but I reckon a symbolic number of them would actually commit something like that. And also, a lot of kids are molested in their own families (a huge percentage, don't remember the exact figures) Psychiatric help is in order, but how to go to a doctor and say "Hi, I watch little kiddies after midnight, please help me"? Tough. And yeah, pornography, if it's consentual, ok. People undoubtedly like it. And prostitution, better legalize it, that means health care, safety, because prostitution was there since forever and it will stay that way (this doesn't mean that i suport legalization of marijuana).
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12.11.2007 - 19:47
Woutjinho
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Written by Black Winter on 24.08.2007 at 14:00

Under age porn is the most growing field of prostitution now online, I was chocked to see some of those sites, actually I am still chocked some people think it's "kewl" or something but I think it's an off color joke, no it's not even a joke it's a crime, some of those minors are just 12 ! and I talk about both sexes here.


they want to illegalize even wachting kiddy porn here. better stay off those sites in the future

btw: at some pedo site a picture of "our" little princess was put on. the pedos got a fine of 5000 euros.
(they said if it was any other kid they would have had thesame fine. yeah right )
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19.11.2007 - 16:34
GT
Coffee!!
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Written by APOHAKC on 12.06.2007 at 13:53

Written by Sunioj on 09.06.2007 at 12:46

I agree with Aronax about the legalization thing. In the netherlands I heard that its legal and they test them for stds and if it is monitered by law then there would be less sufferring and exploitation. In jerusalem its founded that there is about 120 teenage prostitutes in the city, and there is huge sex trade in the other cities too, if that can be made legal, then there wouldnt be as much problems. There would be crackdowns on the local cirme families and when Israeli law is cracking down, they do it hard and they do it well too.


Legalisation would surely solve one part of problems, the only one who doesn't want legalisation are dirty and probably deaseased whores that gathers under the bridges and mafia bosses. With legalisation at least country will have something from them, they will have to pay taxes like everyone else

Agree that legalisation would probably solve some of the problems...just don't think it will solve them all...there will always be people that abuse the system (and the prostitutes).
About the tax thing: In Denmark prostitution is illegal, but the prostitutes still have to pay income taxes of what they earn...so making it legal wouldn't make any difference here (on that subject).
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20.11.2007 - 01:46
APOHAKC
The Bard
You are right about that mate, of cause legalization won't solve all the problems, I think it will help, already wrote why I think so, but, what should we do then?
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23.11.2007 - 19:47
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@AOS: unfortunately I don't know...wish I did but even small improvements are better than non and if the problems are solved one by one they might all be fixed someday
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23.11.2007 - 21:22
Achor
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So what do you guys think about the very principle of for example sexual freedom? Or the liberal argument of supply and demand?
'Cause to me, it's not just about solving problems of abuse and such, but also a bigger perspective like everyone has the right to sex, and as long as there is a market, it should be ok.
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24.11.2007 - 13:46
Remus
Written by Author on 23.11.2007 at 21:22

So what do you guys think about the very principle of for example sexual freedom?


I can tell you mr Aronax of Steel doesn't exactly enjoy the company of gay people...

I think sexual freedom is cool though. Supply and demand is cool as well. If you're horny and you got money, then why not go to a brothel? As long as you wore protection there would be nothing wrong with it.
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28.11.2007 - 01:28
Dane Train
Beers & Kilts
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This Video pretty much sums up how I feel, and says it so much better than I could.
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28.11.2007 - 02:05
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Tage Westerlund
Written by Dane Train on 28.11.2007 at 01:28

This Video pretty much sums up how I feel, and says it so much better than I could.


yesterday was good Marc Dorcel movie from 2001 Im prtoud I saw it
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29.11.2007 - 15:10
APOHAKC
The Bard
Written by Remus on 24.11.2007 at 13:46

Written by Author on 23.11.2007 at 21:22

So what do you guys think about the very principle of for example sexual freedom?


I can tell you mr Aronax of Steel doesn't exactly enjoy the company of gay people...



You're right, I don't, anyway, I found this article aroun, http://www.kurir-info.co.yu/clanak/k...007/jedu-govna, it is in Serbian though, anyway, I'll translated some important parts:

It is about some new way of prostitution and people called shit eaters, well, they enjoy eating shit, and especially if their partner feed them, in Holland they opened few borthels where people can get this kind of service, and there is part where some prostitute says: "It is sick, I am disgusted by that but I have to do whatever my "partners" wants", prices are in between 50-200 euros, 50 if your partner eat shit and 200 if he wants to eat it.

Well, why did I wrote this? With legalization and laws of prostitution such things could be forbidden and gilrs that work in such places would not have to do this sickness, and now, lets see who is that liberal to say, they are also people and that's cool...
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30.11.2007 - 11:53
Woutjinho
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shiteaters exists much longer. what about scat porn, thats just sickening.
but if whores think its worth the money and the partners enjoys it, sure, be my guest.
but whores need enough rights
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30.11.2007 - 15:01
Achor
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Of course, if the prostitutes think something like eating shit or whatever sick thing that the customer might want, there should be no restrictions. Sex should be taboo, treated with so much respect. It's a product, and supply and demand should be in effect.
You might think I'm stupid, saying sex is so intimate, the most intimate thing we have. Well, I disagree. Love is. And love is a product, with all the books and movies and Valentine's day and what not. The love for family and friends, the love for a partner, and what about the love for yourself... This is all exposed everywhere. Staff at the kinder garden is expected to pretend to feel affection for the kids, aswell as people working at old folks' homes. So love is a product in this case, since the people at kinder garden gets payed to feel affection for the kids. Therefore sex should also be treated as a product.
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