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Written by LeKiwi on 08.12.2012 at 18:23
Also, Sylosis, Be'lakor, Uneven Structure, Diablo Swing Orchestra, Periphery (marginally), In Mourning, Riverside, Ørkenkjøtt...perhaps Amorphis if you're into melodic black (or however you might define it )
Didn't add all of them, but I DID add Uneven Structure, Diablo Swing Orchestra and In Mourning (which was already in this list a while ago though). Still need to check out the others.
Written by PocketMetal on 12.12.2012 at 12:52
I'd have Diablo Swing Orchestra in the top 5
nice list anyway .
Finally added it.
Written by Alex Lemon on 19.01.2013 at 21:38
Some i think are missing are; Amorphis - The Karelian Isthmus, Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro, Ancient Wisdom - For Snow..., At The Gates - The Red In The Sky Is Ours, Cloak Of Altering - The Night Comes Illuminated..., Darkspace - I, De Magia Veterum - Spikes Through Eyes, Diablo Swing Orchestra - Butcher's Ballroom..... I won't go through them all but there's a few
Well, Darkspace got added a few weeks ago, while I just added DSO.
Written by Fritillaria on 02.03.2013 at 18:01
Winds Of Creation by Decapitated is missed and also Diablo Swing Orchestra debut 
I added both, as you might've expected. Decapitated isn't exactly my kind of thing, but I still like technical death metal a few times a week. DSO's debut was a lot better when I re-listened it. Still don't like the female vocals a lot, since they remind me of Nightwish, but their style sounds very original and overall definitely nice music to listen to. |
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Yeah Thumbs up for Decapitated although it's not exactly your favorite I know But their debut in my opinion is one of the bests. Well I agree that sometimes the female vocals in DSO gets boring, but I think that has nothing to do with Nightwish vocals anyway. But DSO music in their debut is seriously original  |
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Written by Fritillaria on 07.03.2013 at 22:36
Yeah Thumbs up for Decapitated although it's not exactly your favorite I know But their debut in my opinion is one of the bests. Well I agree that sometimes the female vocals in DSO gets boring, but I think that has nothing to do with Nightwish vocals anyway. But DSO music in their debut is seriously original 
Thumbs up? I don't see it! 
I'll definitely listen to Decapitated again. I only want to listen to the best of the best some genres have to offer (those genres being thrash and death metal mainly). And DSO and Nightwish are completely different bands, but the vocals still remind me of Nightwish. |
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Haha ok can you see them now ?
No way ! I think DSO vocalist can make Tarja seems like an Amateur |
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Written by Fritillaria on 07.03.2013 at 22:44
Haha ok can you see them now ?
No way ! I think DSO vocalist can make Tarja seems like an Amateur
I can see it now, thanks. 
Regarding Nightwish, I liked Tarja a lot back then. When I saw them live in 2008 (in Antwerpen) Anette just joined them and she DID suck big time... her voice was just awful.  |
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Written by EMols86 on 07.03.2013 at 22:54
Written by Fritillaria on 07.03.2013 at 22:44
Haha ok can you see them now ?
No way ! I think DSO vocalist can make Tarja seems like an Amateur
I can see it now, thanks. 
Regarding Nightwish, I liked Tarja a lot back then. When I saw them live in 2008 (in Antwerpen) Anette just joined them and she DID suck big time... her voice was just awful. 
you're kidding me ! Anneke is one of the best female vocalists I know !!! |
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Written by Fritillaria on 07.03.2013 at 22:57
you're kidding me ! Anneke is one of the best female vocalists I know !!!
Not talking about Anneke from The Gathering, she indeed has a truly wonderful voice, one of the best! 
Anette Olzon however is just plain awful live... maybe she improved or something, but that live show made me lose interest in the band completely (along with the disappointing album called Dark Passion Play). |
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Written by EMols86 on 07.03.2013 at 23:01
Written by Fritillaria on 07.03.2013 at 22:57
you're kidding me ! Anneke is one of the best female vocalists I know !!!
Not talking about Anneke from The Gathering, she indeed has a truly wonderful voice, one of the best! 
Anette Olzon however is just plain awful live... maybe she improved or something, but that live show made me lose interest in the band completely (along with the disappointing album called Dark Passion Play).
oh my mistake ! sorry, I've read this comment on Anette's vocals a lot however I am not into Nightwish music with Tarja or without. |
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Written by Fritillaria on 07.03.2013 at 23:03
oh my mistake ! sorry, I've read this comment on Anette's vocals a lot however I am not into Nightwish music with Tarja or without.
Don't worry about it. If you're curious, check out Oceanborn (their best in my opinion), but since it's the genre you don't like at all (symphonic), I doubt it's the right music for you...
Written by theFIST on 07.03.2013 at 23:17
What about Portal ?
Thanks for the suggestion. I have heard about the band, but never bothered listening to their stuff. |
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Wilderun's debut is also very interesting. this is a great list ... I still remember when there was like 20 albums here  |
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Written by PocketMetal on 19.03.2013 at 23:29
Wilderun's debut is also very interesting. this is a great list ... I still remember when there was like 20 albums here 
Thanks. I added Wilderun a while ago, but I guess you already noticed that. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I still liked it a lot. And yeah, I started off with about 20 albums and since then added 110 albums.
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 02.04.2013 at 23:47
What about Mayhem-Deathcrush? Or Celtic Frost-Morbid Tales ?
What are you talking about? This list isn't for EP's, but only for full-length studio albums. I just added Mayhem's debut and Celtic Frost's debut was already added to this list months ago. So there you go.  |
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Written by ANGEL REAPER on 10.04.2013 at 00:19
DEATHCRUSH >>>> De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas 
Really? De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas sounded really great to me and I immediately added it to my wishlist, haha. I'll listen to Deathcrust too though, thanks for the suggestion. Let me know if there are any essential albums missing. |
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Nope... it ain't as good as DMDS at all. It's a good EP though.
I saw some funeral doom... but didn't see Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet or Thergothon - Stream From The Heavens
I'm sad now.
Written by EMols86 on 22.02.2013 at 23:21 I didn't like Virgin Black a lot (strange, I know, considering I like similar bands a lot), though I listened to their second album, not their debut.
But this is a list for debuts, not sophomore albums. Their debut is quite superior to their second album so you should still check it out. |
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I happened to find something that may be to your liking. If you liked Ixion, then I guess you'll find THIS to your liking as well.
Personally, I think they're even better. |
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Written by theFIST on 07.03.2013 at 23:17
What about Portal ?
I listened to their debut, but I don't like it at all. I like most styles in metal, but this is just too much for me, since I simply cannot enjoy it. If you have any other suggestions, then let me know. 
Written by Mr. Doctor on 11.04.2013 at 17:33
Nope... it ain't as good as DMDS at all. It's a good EP though.
I saw some funeral doom... but didn't see Skepticism - Stormcrowfleet or Thergothon - Stream From The Heavens
I'm sad now.
Written by EMols86 on 22.02.2013 at 23:21 I didn't like Virgin Black a lot (strange, I know, considering I like similar bands a lot), though I listened to their second album, not their debut.
But this is a list for debuts, not sophomore albums. Their debut is quite superior to their second album so you should still check it out.
I added both of them. And holy shit, Thergothon is slow even for funeral doom. 
I already added Virgin Black's debut a while ago though. I actually liked it more than their second album, so I agree about that. However, their fourth album might be even better to me, although that could change after more listens. By the way, I obviously know this list is just for debuts... But ANGEL REAPER recommended me two albums that weren't even debuts, which I don't understand at all since it's pretty obvious this list is solely for full-length studio albums, not EP's or demo's or anything else.
Written by MechanisT on 12.04.2013 at 01:35
I happened to find something that may be to your liking. If you liked Ixion, then I guess you'll find THIS to your liking as well.
Personally, I think they're even better.
I listened to a couple of songs from Sadael and I really like it. Although I have to disappoint you, because I'll only add bands that are featured on MetalStorm, sorry. But thanks anyway for recommending me this band. |
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| Good list. I'd add Ensiferum myself, but the list is already very long. |
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Written by Zaphod on 04.05.2013 at 00:25
Good list. I'd add Ensiferum myself, but the list is already very long.
Thanks! Someone already mentioned that album, but I still haven't checked it out. I'll do so for the next update.
And don't worry, I'll keep expanding this list until I can't find any great debut albums anymore.  |
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Written by EMols86 on 04.05.2013 at 00:30
And don't worry, I'll keep expanding this list until I can't find any great debut albums anymore. 
Which will be never Every year there are a ton of great debut albums. |
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Written by Zaphod on 04.05.2013 at 00:32
Which will be never Every year there are a ton of great debut albums.
Yep, you're 100% correct. Although note that I don't really keep up with new releases... I add suggestions of people here (if I like them) or search for myself on MS for music of my favourite genres (I don't think I have to point out those genres, haha). |
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Written by EMols86 on 04.05.2013 at 00:34
Yep, you're 100% correct. Although note that I don't really keep up with new releases... I add suggestions of people here (if I like them) or search for myself on MS for music of my favourite genres (I don't think I have to point out those genres, haha).
Ah, well, keep doing what you're doing. I'll be checking this list again. I'm also glad to see some of my personal favorite debut albums on here. |
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Written by Zaphod on 04.05.2013 at 00:40
Ah, well, keep doing what you're doing. I'll be checking this list again. I'm also glad to see some of my personal favorite debut albums on here.
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Although some of these bands' debuts aren't for me they seem to be appraised. I've starred the albums that I enjoy the most (or enjoyed what I've listen to so far.)
Amiensus, Animals As Leaders*, Beyond Creation*, Beyond Twilight*, Bloodbath*, Cynic, Dissona*, Dragged Into Sunlight*, Hands Of Despair, Headspace, Kalmah, In Vain*, Masterplan*, Necrophagist, Obsidian Kingdom*, Periphery*, Shaolin Death Squad*, Tesseract* (songs from their first EP), Today I Caught The Plague*. |
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Written by LeKiwi on 06.05.2013 at 19:26
Although some of these bands' debuts aren't for me they seem to be appraised. I've starred the albums that I enjoy the most (or enjoyed what I've listen to so far.)
Amiensus, Animals As Leaders*, Beyond Creation*, Beyond Twilight*, Bloodbath*, Cynic, Dissona*, Dragged Into Sunlight*, Hands Of Despair, Headspace, Kalmah, In Vain*, Masterplan*, Necrophagist, Obsidian Kingdom*, Periphery*, Shaolin Death Squad*, Tesseract* (songs from their first EP), Today I Caught The Plague*.
Well, I don't expect someone to actually like 100% of all the bands that I've listed here, since that's almost impossible. The list could even have way more variety since there's little heavy metal, almost no power metal and no alternative, nu or metal/grindcore. I could just add anything people suggest, but that wouldn't be fun for me and I wouldn't like the list anymore in that case. So yeah, for people who are actually into doom, black, gothic, thrash, progressive and even death metal, this list isn't bad in the slightest, if I say so myself.
Now about your suggestions. I've already listened to Amiensus and I'm definitely going to add it the next time since I really liked it. Bloodbath is already on my to-listen-list a long time, so that one will be added too I think. Same goes for Necrophagist and Obsidian Kingdom. I've listened to Cynic's debut and I totally hated it, sorry. Might give it a second chance because apparantly people think it's amazing. I haven't heard any of the others but I'll check them out. But this could take a while because I'll be very busy next couple of weeks due to graduating, so updates on this list won't be weekly anymore. |
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Written by EMols86 on 06.05.2013 at 23:07
I've listened to Cynic's debut and I totally hated it, sorry. Might give it a second chance because apparantly people think it's amazing. I haven't heard any of the others but I'll check them out. But this could take a while because I'll be very busy next couple of weeks due to graduating, so updates on this list won't be weekly anymore.
I know what you mean I didn't particularly enjoy Cynic's debut either, but it seems to be an acclaimed masterpiece around here The one's I've starred you should really have a listen to...although some of those proggy albums are hard nuts to crack. It took me more than a month or so to begin enjoying Dissona and Shaolin. Enjoy it mate  |
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Written by LeKiwi on 07.05.2013 at 13:43
I know what you mean I didn't particularly enjoy Cynic's debut either, but it seems to be an acclaimed masterpiece around here
Not only around here, but all around the metal and death metal world. And tbh only Focus is worth it, the rest Cynic has done is average at best. |
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Written by LeKiwi on 07.05.2013 at 13:43
I know what you mean I didn't particularly enjoy Cynic's debut either, but it seems to be an acclaimed masterpiece around here The one's I've starred you should really have a listen to...although some of those proggy albums are hard nuts to crack. It took me more than a month or so to begin enjoying Dissona and Shaolin. Enjoy it mate 
Lol , then why did you suggest it to me? I only add albums that I like enough, not because other people think it's a masterpiece. Anyway, I'll check those other albums out... eventually (you know by now it could take a while ).
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.05.2013 at 16:17
Not only around here, but all around the metal and death metal world. And tbh only Focus is worth it, the rest Cynic has done is average at best.
As I said before, I might give it a second chance, but I highly doubt I'll enjoy it. And it's very simple: if I cannot enjoy an album at all, it isn't going to be on this list.  |
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 07.05.2013 at 16:17
Not only around here, but all around the metal and death metal world. And tbh only Focus is worth it, the rest Cynic has done is average at best.
When I first checked out Cynic I had a listen to their debut and I heard some raw elements that detracted from my enjoyment. When they removed those aspects and came out with Traced In Air, I found their music much more pleasing. So it clearly depends on what your metal background is like; being fond of progressive rather than death means Traced In Air > Focus for me 
Not sure if you were implying anything of the sort but I thought I'd clarify my opinion anyhow. |
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Written by LeKiwi on 06.05.2013 at 19:26
Although some of these bands' debuts aren't for me they seem to be appraised. I've starred the albums that I enjoy the most (or enjoyed what I've listen to so far.)
Amiensus, Animals As Leaders*, Beyond Creation*, Beyond Twilight*, Bloodbath*, Cynic, Dissona*, Dragged Into Sunlight*, Hands Of Despair, Headspace, Kalmah, In Vain*, Masterplan*, Necrophagist, Obsidian Kingdom*, Periphery*, Shaolin Death Squad*, Tesseract* (songs from their first EP), Today I Caught The Plague*.
Finally adding these albums to my to-listen-list, so don't get your hopes up just yet. One (rhetorical) question though: you really love progressive metal, don't you? Always good to have some more progressive bands on this list. I was amazed I didn't know most of these while they all get pretty high to very high ratings on different sites. I also like the fact that most of these are featured as full albums/playlists on Youtube, so it's really easy for me to check them out. I expect to add them in the next few (weeks or) months, although Cynic will not be included... probably. Furthermore, which album do I need to check out from Dissona? I mean, MS has an explanation and all, but Metallum and their bandcamp page say Ten Masks is actually their debut. |
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Written by EMols86 on 09.05.2013 at 00:56
Furthermore, which album do I need to check out from Dissona? I mean, MS has an explanation and all, but Metallum and their bandcamp page say Ten Masks is actually their debut.
To be honest, I haven't checked out Ten Masks yet and for all I know it could surpass their self-titled. But for the sake of this list consider their 2012 release their debut 
Progressive is probably my favourite genre (if you could call it one as it's an amalgamation of several) but there are numerous prog albums that irritate me. It all boils down to the small details and I'm quite meticulous when it comes to filtering out the tracks/albums/bands I dislike, so I'm sure there are many other prog albums that are worthy of this list that I've discarded or not spotted yet 
For instance Disperse's debut might be one to consider, but I can't tolerate the vocalist's accent and the frequent use of major scales/chords. |
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Written by LeKiwi on 09.05.2013 at 14:52
To be honest, I haven't checked out Ten Masks yet and for all I know it could surpass their self-titled. But for the sake of this list consider their 2012 release their debut 
Progressive is probably my favourite genre (if you could call it one as it's an amalgamation of several) but there are numerous prog albums that irritate me. It all boils down to the small details and I'm quite meticulous when it comes to filtering out the tracks/albums/bands I dislike, so I'm sure there are many other prog albums that are worthy of this list that I've discarded or not spotted yet 
For instance Disperse's debut might be one to consider, but I can't tolerate the vocalist's accent and the frequent use of major scales/chords.
Okay, I'll go with Dissona - Dissona then. But don't worry about your suggestions, because you gave me plenty music to check out (16 albums that I added to my to-listen-list, in fact). Seeing your votes for some music is rather strange (for example, you gave 4's to two albums of Agalloch and a 5 to Athems to the Welkin At Dusk... as well as two 5's to Opeth albums... I assume black metal isn't your cup of tea), I'd admit that much, although it all comes down to opinions in the end. I'm a bit the same in that regard, for example when I don't like the vocals of music. There's also music being praised a lot that I don't think is all that great, like Weighing Souls With Sand. Can't listen to that kind of music at all. |
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Written by ANGEL REAPER on 18.05.2013 at 03:04
You know that every today's well known /successful band had a great debut album?
No, what are you on about?  |
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Written by EMols86 on 18.05.2013 at 14:42
Written by ANGEL REAPER on 18.05.2013 at 03:04
You know that every today's well known /successful band had a great debut album?
No, what are you on about? 
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Written by ANGEL REAPER on 18.05.2013 at 16:11
you will never catch 'em all....
Haha, but I never had the intention of adding every great debut that was ever created. I just wanted to make a good list and discovering new music through it. |
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This list is getting longer , Did I suggest you to add How Like A Winter 's Debut ? I really like this album ! I guess this has been added to the list newly , also Rapture,Shape of Despair,Slayer,Possessed, In the Silence,Myrath,and Testament, am I right ?  |
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Written by Fritillaria on 18.05.2013 at 17:47
This list is getting longer , Did I suggest you to add How Like A Winter 's Debut ? I really like this album ! I guess this has been added to the list newly , also Rapture,Shape of Despair,Slayer,Possessed, In the Silence,Myrath,and Testament, am I right ? 
No, you didn't. I really like all of those albums as well. But honestly, Shape of Despair's debut is the best out of those for me. Very atmospheric and relaxing stuff.
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Written by EMols86 on 18.05.2013 at 18:02
Written by Fritillaria on 18.05.2013 at 17:47
This list is getting longer , Did I suggest you to add How Like A Winter 's Debut ? I really like this album ! I guess this has been added to the list newly , also Rapture,Shape of Despair,Slayer,Possessed, In the Silence,Myrath,and Testament, am I right ? 
No, you didn't. I really like all of those albums as well. But honestly, Shape of Despair's debut is the best out of those for me. Very atmospheric and relaxing stuff.
Any more stuff that I need to add in your opinion?
not at the moment, for sure I will if I find anything notable to mention, BTW now that you liked Rapture's debut I highly recommend you listen to Songs For The Withering by them too, seriousely one of the best albums I have ever found ! |
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Written by Lit. on 23.05.2013 at 22:28
Machine Head and Pentagram?
Hah, that's a good one, given our discussion a few days ago. Anyway, you made it clear Machine Head isn't really Nu in the first place, so I'll definitely check it out then. I've been wanting to check out Pentagram for a while now, but still haven't done so.
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Lit. - 24.05.2013 at 02:29
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Written by EMols86 on 23.05.2013 at 22:36
Hah, that's a good one, given our discussion a few days ago. Anyway, you made it clear Machine Head isn't really Nu in the first place, so I'll definitely check it out then. I've been wanting to check out Pentagram for a while now, but still haven't done so.
Just let me know if there are any other essential (or at least great) debut albums missing in your opinion. 
That's all I ask. Just be sure -*cough* even if there's nothing wrong with nu metal *cough*- that Machine Head's debut is not and is definitely one of the best debuts in groove metal.
Pentagram's debut is just as good; a nice slab of underrated doom metal.
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Written by Lit. on 24.05.2013 at 02:29
That's all I ask. Just be sure -*cough* even if there's nothing wrong with nu metal *cough*- that Machine Head's debut is not and is definitely one of the best debuts in groove metal.
Pentagram's debut is just as good; a nice slab of underrated doom metal.
I'll also keep an eye out for others and keep you posted. 
Hehe, I haven't heard a lot (if any ) groove metal, so I guess I just wait and hear to find out. And I'm quite familiar with doom metal (especially death/doom), so I guess Pentagram will be added anyway. This list is huge, but it still needs to be bigger. You'd know since your list is even longer.  |
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Lit. - 24.05.2013 at 03:11
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Written by EMols86 on 24.05.2013 at 02:39
Hehe, I haven't heard a lot (if any ) groove metal, so I guess I just wait and hear to find out. And I'm quite familiar with doom metal (especially death/doom), so I guess Pentagram will be added anyway. This list is huge, but it still needs to be bigger. You'd know since your list is even longer. 
Well, while we're on that note, check out groove metallers Exhorder. They have a decent debut (Slaughter in the Vatican). |
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